The two encounter such patterns of thinking not only in their professional lives. They are often so taken for granted that they go unnoticed at first. Both therefore emphasize that no one is free from unconscious assumptions. What matters most, they say, is to become aware of these assumptions and to continually question one’s own preconceptions.
In their view, this is particularly relevant in technology and science. In many technical fields, there are still significantly more men than women. “It doesn’t mean we can’t do it or that we can’t be just as good,” says Saskia. For both of them, it is therefore important to create opportunities and not to assign people specific roles based on preconceptions or stereotypes.
At Fraunhofer ISIT itself, the two now experience their day-to-day work as a matter of course and on an equal footing. Once someone is working at the institute, gender plays no decisive role in daily interactions. Employees take on the same tasks and are assigned based on their job responsibilities. From their perspective, the challenges often arise earlier—for example, when choosing a career, applying for a job, or dealing with the expectations others have of them.
Much of the BfC’s work remains behind the scenes. In addition to discussions with employees, it also involves many behind-the-scenes processes. The BfC is integrated into specific processes; for example, they review documents and support administrative procedures. “It’s like an iceberg,” Saskia says, describing the work. What’s visible from the outside is only a small part of it. Much of it happens behind the scenes. But it is precisely this work that is important to ensure that equal opportunity is also taken into account in day-to-day operations.